What now for climate law? ⚖️ Abigail Dillen has answers.

This week I’m chatting with environmental lawyer Abigail Dillen , president of Earthjustice , a nonprofit law firm whose tagline is “because the Earth needs a good lawyer.” Indeed, it does. The stakes, in her words: “We could come out of this time with neither presidential authority nor congressional authority to create, and enforce strong environmental laws.” Oof.

But we are not quitters, right team? So, from from the Supreme Court, to suing the government, to Project Phoenix, to her spicy take on the whole abundance narrative, Earthlings 🌎, let’s dive in.

Abbie’s CALL TO ACTION 🗣️ Buckle up, this is an especially nerdy one: Read Supreme Court dissents in order to fire yourself up, starting with what Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson had to say in Trump v. CASA , on universal injunctions and beyond.

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This episode was produced and edited by Gabby Bulgarelli , and me, Ayana, with help from associate producer Jenisha Shrestha. Get full access to WHAT IF WE GET IT RIGHT? at ayanaelizabeth.substack.com/subscribe