This week on The Thick, we unpack Nikole Hannah-Jones’ decision to send her daughter to an under-resourced, predominantly Black public school and the complicated decision Black parents face: Is a “good” school worth being racially ostracized? We unpack this discussion, the intense criticism Hannah-Jones received for her decision, and the tradeoffs Black parents navigate with this decision.
In the news, we break down the latest developments in the Nolan Wells case, the Cornell sexual-assault case, Title IX rollbacks, and more. Then in pop culture: the VMAs, Taylor Swift’s underwhelming new album, and Mariah Carey’s Billboard record somehow being broken by a song we’ve never even heard.
Education, race, parenting, opportunity, justice, and a little pop culture mess—we’re getting into everything! IG, TikTok & YouTube: @thethickpodcast Follow our hosts everywhere at @tabriamajors and @damnmindy Music Credit: CWatt$ Sources Nearly half a million deaths projected worldwide due to Super El Niño Mortgage rates increase Iran negotiations w/ the US Airlines cut back on holiday travel Dept. of Education rollback Title IX protections for LGBTQ+ students Grad student loans limited even further Project 2025 Tracker Nolan Wells SnapChat messages Jay Megan’s deep dive DA reopens Cornell case + Jane Doe’s original statement Nikole Hannah-Jones original essay on choosing her daughter’s school Nikole Hannah Jones follow-up piece This American Life podcast episode w/ Nikole and her daughter Timestamps 00:00:00 Transition lenses 00:06:56 Tabria’s catch up 00:09:40 Models are a blank slate 00:11:52 Mindy’s catch up 00:14:05 Utilities are UP 00:17:01 Super El Niño 00:20:24 West Nile in SoCal 00:22:14 Mortgage rates increase 00:28:15 Iran War & diesel 00:32:11 Title IX rollbacks 00:34:18 Student loans limited 00:36:46 Nolan Wells 00:44:47 Cornell gang rape 00:56:02 Good News 00:57:14 Burps & interview etiquette 00:59:42 Good News cont. 01:01:03 Condolences to Raz-B & Mona 01:02:00 Judge Judy 01:05:56 Celebs & Influencers arrested at UN protest 01:06:52 VMAs came and went 01:08:17 Taylor Swift 01:21:58 Choosin’ Texas beat Mariah’s record 01:26:23 Hannah Gann the new Rachel Dolezal 01:32:17 Nicki Minaj interview w/ Lara Trump 01:33:03 Topic: Nikole Hannah-Jones 01:40:55 As Black parents, would you choose education over culture? 01:46:19 Tabria’s school experience 01:49:37 Mindy’s school experience 01:54:56 Nikole’s intent vs impact 01:58:10 What’s the solution? 02:03:26 Social Media/Phones part of the problem 02:06:32 Tell us about your experiences in school 02:07:40 Rank yourself with boy, girl, man, woman 02:13:28 Which people are the most generous? 02:17:35 Outro
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