Celebration Interviews: Charisma Justice and Michelle Turner on Rest, Enough, and the Pre Stage

At our Season Six Celebration and Season Seven Fundraiser, we set up a podcast room and invited everyone in the building to interview each other with prompt cards. This is the tenth of fifteen conversations from that day.

Charisma Justice and Michelle Turner joined us through our talent producer Kamesha Rodriguez, and gave us one of the most candid conversations of the day. Asked when she last felt truly seen, Charisma says she isn't there yet — she's mid-career-change and planning a cross-country move, living in what she calls the pre stage.

Her definition of arriving has nothing to do with status: enough money that the bills don't register, room in the back to build a house for her mother, her child next door, and no one worrying about long-term care. On rest, she's blunt about why Black women don't take it, and honest about what her own version looks like.

Michelle shares that she chose to step back after years of giving herself to other people's dreams, and wonders now whether she's been resting too long. Watch the video version on YouTube (@TruJuLoMedia) or Apple Podcasts.

The full unedited conversation is available to members at patreon.com/sistabrunch. Filmed at The Recording Club, Santa Monica.

Recorded during the Sista Brunch Season Six Celebration and Season Seven Fundraiser, produced with Pioneer Network. Sista Brunch is brought to you by TruJuLo Productions, hosted and produced by Fanshen Cox, with our Season Seven team: Samantha K.

Henderson, Tasha Rogers, Ashanti Groves, Charlie T. Savage, Shawn Pipkin-West, and Maegan Philmore.

Recorded on the unceded territory of the Tongva and the Chumash in Los Angeles. Support the show: leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and join us at patreon.com/sistabrunch.