Ep. 162: The Business of Intimacy with Joél Leon

In XYBM 162, we sit down with Joél Leon — writer, poet, speaker, and community builder — for a conversation about the one thing Black men don’t practice enough: emotional intimacy with each other. We break down the male loneliness epidemic from the inside out, reframe love languages as something we owe our friends and brothers, not just our partners, and draw a direct line between the depth of our friendships and the success of our business relationships.

This is a must-watch for any Black man who has a group chat that only comes alive during the NBA/NFL season and goes quiet the rest of the year — and for anyone ready to understand why the intimacy you’re avoiding with your friends is the same intimacy holding back your business, your relationships, and your mental health. Tune in on all podcast streaming platforms, including YouTube.

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