Does Nikole Hannah-Jones Have Hope?

"You don't talk to me for hope," she says. But we found a little bit.

First, Ayman Mohyeldin stops by to break down how he’s watching the news out of Iran, and what he sees in the chaotic conclusion to the Democratic primary for a Senate seat in Texas. In our guest segment – the groupchat – Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and creator of “The 1619 Project” Nikole Hannah-Jones warns us that we have entered a second Nadir, a period when progress toward democracy is being rolled back.

And returning to an era of Civil Rights enforcement is not a short-term struggle. But, she says, in the words of Coretta Scott King: “Freedom is never really won.

You earn it and win it in every generation.” And now, Nikole says, it’s our turn to earn it. Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this and other MS podcasts without ads.

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