In Potato Salad We Trust

Forget the hot dogs and apple pie. Wesley has one thing on his mind this Fourth of July — potato salad!

The moment has stirred up some really strong feelings for this classic summer staple and how it lives up to the country’s ideals of what it is and could be. Wesley takes to the streets of New York City and back to The Times’s Cooking Kitchen to test out his theory against his family’s recipe for potato salad.

Is it the beacon of hope and possibility that he thinks it is? Along the way, he’s joined by a two-time James Beard Award winner and food historian, Jessica B.

Harris, to answer this essential question: Does potato salad belong on the Mount Rushmore of national dishes? Subscribe today at or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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